Problem with sports talk and debate shows a lot is people don’t realize they both right sometimes lol.
Shaq and Kobe wouldn’t have won if Rick fox and Robert horry didn’t step up in key moments. And certain stars never win championships until they got help with other star talent. Even the Curry & Durant warriors at the end weren’t quite as scary when their “others” retired or left for other teams.
People will only talk about the role players who deliver AFTER they win a championship. Until then they’re just role players. Shaq’s putting the cart before the horse
We only talk about teams becoming contenders when they acquire superstars. “Others” are not what separates championship teams from regular playoff teams. It always comes down to the quality of play superstars can produce. KD won two championships by joining a team that already had two superstars, two of the greatest shooters ever. So that was a very bad example from Kenny.
Charles is totally right on this. Mavs and Pistons winning were anomalies. Kenny mentioned Durant… that’s a poor argument because KD didn’t win until he teamed up with Steph and Klay.
jbaysik
May 7, 2021 at 2:26 am
Problem with sports talk and debate shows a lot is people don’t realize they both right sometimes lol.
Shaq and Kobe wouldn’t have won if Rick fox and Robert horry didn’t step up in key moments. And certain stars never win championships until they got help with other star talent. Even the Curry & Durant warriors at the end weren’t quite as scary when their “others” retired or left for other teams.
Patches O'houlihan
May 7, 2021 at 2:26 am
Chuck was Wrong as usual
kuro chan
May 7, 2021 at 2:28 am
thats why chuck never win a championship
Al B
May 7, 2021 at 2:28 am
Good to see the original crew back at it!!
Gibbo451
May 7, 2021 at 2:29 am
People will only talk about the role players who deliver AFTER they win a championship. Until then they’re just role players. Shaq’s putting the cart before the horse
* ThaBreakDown!*
May 7, 2021 at 2:41 am
That’s kinda true
Wt Yi
May 7, 2021 at 2:31 am
Others are different. GSW won the first championship also thanks to West, Livingston who were greater than most bench’ players in other teams.
Robert S
May 7, 2021 at 2:32 am
The 72 win Bulls had a LOT of others. Steve Kerr,vLuc Longley…they couldn’t have won without them. Case closed.
Johnny
May 7, 2021 at 2:33 am
We only talk about teams becoming contenders when they acquire superstars. “Others” are not what separates championship teams from regular playoff teams. It always comes down to the quality of play superstars can produce. KD won two championships by joining a team that already had two superstars, two of the greatest shooters ever. So that was a very bad example from Kenny.
Black Beard
May 7, 2021 at 2:33 am
Two thing that bug me about this show 1) Shaq acts like he didn’t play with Kobe or wade 2) they act like Kenny was good
9bridges
May 7, 2021 at 2:47 am
Shaq never won anything without Kobe and D-Wade. Case and point that you need another superstar.
M Haynes
May 7, 2021 at 2:51 am
U sleep Kenny was good.
imabirdhaww
May 7, 2021 at 2:34 am
Chuck dominated this debate.
You saying that if shaq was on the nuggets during his time he would’ve won championships? C’mon now, if that were true he would’ve won with Orlando.
rockyscarlet
May 7, 2021 at 2:34 am
There are different types of “others”, you can have Anthony Mackie, Darko Milicic “others” or Fred Van Fleet, Tony Kukoc “Others”.
Ed Saban
May 7, 2021 at 2:35 am
I have to agree with Chuck. What he is saying is that you cannot win without the great players.
Derrell Oliver
May 7, 2021 at 2:37 am
Never thought I’d say this but I agree w shaq
SS
May 7, 2021 at 2:37 am
This is a Kenny topic all the way
GJ Williams
May 7, 2021 at 2:38 am
Everybody gotta perform, period. A superstar gotta perform at superstar level. Others gotta perform at their level.
Mario Ortega
May 7, 2021 at 2:38 am
Err’body does have others, it’s about making the others great!!
itsnova Louise
May 7, 2021 at 2:40 am
Chuck was right like always . Almost every title team has 3 hof on it . Even the dirk win it wasn’t just dirk it was him j kid and j terry .
Alan C
May 7, 2021 at 2:42 am
This is why I love this show, debates like this.
9bridges
May 7, 2021 at 2:42 am
Charles is totally right on this. Mavs and Pistons winning were anomalies. Kenny mentioned Durant… that’s a poor argument because KD didn’t win until he teamed up with Steph and Klay.
mfc1
May 7, 2021 at 2:44 am
2004 Detroit pistons
DR. RESPECTFUL
May 7, 2021 at 2:45 am
I usually agree with chuck but he got proven wrong on that last part, those 04 pistons were something else.
Gacha_ Lily
May 7, 2021 at 2:46 am
It’s a combination of great players and others
italo kafler
May 7, 2021 at 2:53 am
Chuck is absolutely right
v1984 Bjune15
May 7, 2021 at 2:54 am
What about toronto
thebr0wnhornet
May 7, 2021 at 2:54 am
Robert Horry. case closed